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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:59:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Tippia wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:amazon doesnt run at a 1 hz rate either GǪbecause it's not a real-time service, so it can survive running at .01 Hz. You're still avoiding the question, by the way. your saying Amazon takes 100 seconds to make a webpage? wtf? i dont even get what ur trying to say anymore
That right there tells me you know nothing about what a cloud service actually is.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:06:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Tippia wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:your saying Amazon takes 100 seconds to make a webpage? wtf? i dont even get what ur trying to say anymore Try reading, preferably without skipping words. Or entire questions. Yes, between waiting for the page to load, the user looking through the page and finding the information they need, and general net congestion, Amazon can survive while delivering pages at .01 Hz. What is it you think that GÇ£the cloudGÇ¥ will be able to do for us? thats in the OP, maybe u should read urself 
That is evasion.
Your OP does not say anything about what it is you think cloud services can do. You sound like those business idiots that come to my office saying we need the cloud. At which point I sigh and try to explain to them with crayons what a cloud service actually is.
EDIT: However after reading some of your other threads and post. I do understand why you said what you did.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:22:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:so its easier to "LOL UR DUMB" than explain why someone is wrong, yes? maybe u could get "crayons" and explain why thousand of computers working together to spread work and reduce ddos is wrong?
Your assumption that cloud is the answer is flawed. Based on one thing... The latency between the distributed services would cause to much latency for a service like EVE that requires real-time processing.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:28:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:so its easier to "LOL UR DUMB" than explain why someone is wrong, yes? maybe u could get "crayons" and explain why thousand of computers working together to spread work and reduce ddos is wrong? Your assumption that cloud is the answer is flawed. Based on one thing... The latency between the distributed services would cause to much latency for a service like EVE that requires real-time processing. i dont think so. if a cloud computer is handleing every place there are ships then the latency only hapens on warps and jumps that are alredy 'slow' enough to hide any wait with async query
haha...
Cloud is not a computer. I sure as hell hope you are not in IT.
In it's simplest of form... Cloud just means sharing of resources. I would suggest you do a search on the forums on what the hardware of EVE actually is.
I think you would quickly understand why your cloud service would not work.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:40:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Kristalll wrote:Does the OP not realize that the cloud is just computers just like the current server structure?
Does the OP think the cloud is some magical internet entity? I'm pretty sure when he is saying "use the cloud", what he really means is "distribute it over more hardware", I just don't think he realises that is what he means, since he has no idea what he's talking about. that is only sort of what im saying. right now can eve dynamic start servers and instances to manage load and lots of stuff? no!! ccp is limiting by the PHYSICAL SERVERS THEY HAVE! i am understanding and i know that eve is distributed on 'internet servers' (do u guys think im stupid?) but the diff is the curent model is like hiring 3 people to do tech support and their overwelmed sometimes, vs out-sourcing to a tech support company to not get overwelmed because they have 'standby backup'!
Incorrect...
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:52:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:
Remember. Hardware is not dedicated to you in hosted or cloud based service.
its not and there is still need for some dedicated processing (eg big battles) but the remainder load can be split up a LOT and done in paralel. ive read about what ccp uses to run eve and it looks limiting in this way
Communication between the server then becomes your bottleneck. Which will make thing even worse.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2014.03.05 18:11:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:"The Cloud" is an incredibly over-used buzz word that people (see: mostly higher ups at Microsoft) throw around without really understanding what it is. Hooray "Cloud".
Sales people love using that word. Cloud is just a fancy word for saying Internet.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
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